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Evidence That Demands Discussion ...
On Sunday November 4, starting around 5 pm, the sol cafe will be meeting at Cafe Dabar (10816 Whyte Avenue) for an evening of discussion and introspection focusing on the way in which Christianity is presented with the popular Christian subculture and our church. Come have a coffee with us as we explore the role of conventional wisdom and rational thought in relation to evangelism and the presentation of the gospel.
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2 comment(s):
Hello all,
I just wanted to say hi! It sounds like you are having a very interesting discussion at Sol Cafe this week, and I wish I could be there for it. As many of you know, the relationship between Christianity and Culture is one of my favourite topics, and I love to explore what that can look like with others. So I wanted to ask a question, since I can't actually participate.
It's a bit of a tangent, but I'm reading a book called "The Misunderstood Jew" right now, written by a practicing Jew named Amy-Jill Levine, who teaches at a Protestant Divinity College. Her main point is that Jesus was a Jew in religion, as well as ethnicity. (So often, Christians admit that Jesus is a Jew by race, but completely ignore the fact that he also practiced Jewish religion.) Jesus did not intend to destroy Judaism. Jesus and his followers, even Paul who seems to be so "anti-Jewish", practiced Jewish customs. (What was he doing when he got arrested in Acts 21:17-36?) Furthermore, Judaism and Christianity did not become two distinct religions until decades or even longer after Jesus. On the other hand, protestants pay particular attention to the church of the New Testament, as their model and the source of their legitimacy (because we reject the "tradition" that the pope is God's representative on earth over the whole church, we have to go back to the "history" of the New Testament to find our model and authority). And yet, our faith and practice look nothing like Judaism (and hence, the faith and practice of Jesus and his disciples.)
So my question is, how can we recover the memory of Jesus as a Jew, and how can that impact the practice of our faith?
Now you may be asking yourselves, "Kevin, the e-mail says we are talking about the way that the gospel is presented in Christianity, popular Christian subculture, and the Sol Cafe. What does this have to do with evangelism and the presentation of the gospel?"
And to be honest, I haven't thought about that. You tell me.
Kev
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When we open the Bible we do not find a philosophy, a political statement, a metaphysic or even a religion. We find instead the promise of dialog, a personal word addressed to me, asking me what I am doing, hoping, fearing - and especially what I am. -- Jacques Ellul
Hey Kev,
I think the answer to your question would be tough, "recover the memory of Jesus being a jew". A valuable one, even one that I am interested in learning more about. But still a tough one, as I believe we would have to live in Jewish community to understand for ourselves what it means to be a jew. Which, I would love to read about and visit Isreal, but I would love to become an authentic part of Jewish community to begin to understand it.
Sunday went well, I'm sorry I didn't bring up your question, but there will be time. thanks for still being there man, we speak well of you while you are gone.
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